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Florida Republican Debate: MSNBC Joins Media Censoring Ron Paul
  Friday, January 25th, 2008


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We couldn't have been more thoroughly disgusted by tonight's Republican debate in Boca Raton, Florida.  MSNBC broadcast a live, 90-minute debate with Republican candidates Rudy Giuliani, Mike Huckabee, John McCain, Ron Paul, and Mitt Romney.  And we put that in alphabetical order, though you will probably never see it written that way in the mainstream media.

Before we go over the details of who said what, it is imperative we bring up the censorship factor.  MSNBC and NBC News' coverage tonight was absolutely not equal.  Romney, Giuliani, and McCain all got the most face time.  Huckabee got only six questions to answer, and was allowed to ask one; Ron Paul, of the full 90-minute segment, only got to answer five questions, and to ask one, and with shorter allowed response time (other candidates went over their time limits and directed questions to each other which MSNBC hosts then allowed to be answered).

We should all know that FOX News does it...but MSNBC? MSNBC, who brings us the Countdown with Keith Olbermann, Dateline, and all of those shows we love? Sadly - this time - yes.

Paul got just 6 minutes and 31 seconds of out of a 90-minute segment.

Sickeningly unfair.

Ron Paul came in a close second place in the recent Republican Louisiana caucus, as we reported - which was largely untouched by the mainstream media (CNN doesn't even have Louisiana on their website at all in their election center).  And, as clearly as the Republican party refused to back Ron Paul when FOX News excluded him from the New Hampshire debate, the Louisiana GOP has not released the real numbers of delegate votes...which they had on Tuesday.

It was 16 minutes into the debate before Congressman Ron Paul was even addressed with a question.

In fact, here are the final speaking times for what each candidate was given tonight:

Romney:  21 minutes, 11 seconds (12 answers and asked 1 question)
McCain:  16 minutes even (12 answers and asked 1 question)
Giuliani:  13 minutes and 50 seconds (10 answers and asked 1 question)
Huckabee:  12 minutes and 11 seconds (8 answers and asked 1 question)
Paul:  6 minutes and 31 seconds (5 answers and asked 1 question)

Huckabee and Paul are both censored not just by the mass media, but by their own party.  Could it have anything to do with them both wanting to eliminate the IRS?  Or them being the only two candidates that are not supporting drastic corporate tax cuts?

If You Want to Skip to:  On Taxes, On World Issues, On the War, Attacking Hillary, Global Warming, Religion, Immigration, On Bush, Conclusion, How To Make A Difference Petition, Your Comments

ON TAXES  Back to Top

McCain, Giuliani, and Romney all said at tonight's debate that they support corporations getting a break in their income tax.  That means companies like FOX, MSNBC, AT&T, Wal-Mart, and all the huge corporations you can think of that are outsourcing jobs overseas right now.  Are those the places that need tax cuts?

Huckabee is right about how we're "penalized for productivity."  While I personally don't view the Fair Tax plan as the answer to this problem (the Fair Tax Plan would consist of increasing sales tax to a flat amount, somewhere between 23-30% embedded into products' prices), he agreed with Paul that the more money we make, the more successful we are in this country, the more we are charged in income tax.  Neither Huckabee nor Paul believes in income tax at all for individual citizens, viewing it as unconstitutional.

There were multiple instances throughout the debate where all of the individual candidates got cheers, laughter, and made jokes.  Yet the only two times that MSNBC announcers scolded the audience, was after Ron Paul got laughter or applause.

The first time it happened, MSNBC reminded the audience no "outbursts...or applause."  The second time Paul got the studio audience cheering - when he said we never should have invaded Iraq - the audience was reminded to hold back "pent up energy."

Nothing was said when any of the other candidates told jokes or inspired audience interaction.

ON WORLD ISSUES  Back to Top
Giuliani called Fidel Castro the "longest standing dictator" in the world.

Huckabee and Paul were also the only two candidates that were strong in their opposition of pouring more money into China.  Romney, in fact, directed a question at Giuliani, and asked him how we can work with China without "creating a departure of American jobs."  UM, TOO LATE?

And Giuliani's answer consisted of calling the rise of China "good" and saying, "What can we sell them?" to help them improve their economy.  Then he went on to discuss the "damage" former President Bill Clinton allegedly created with his Peace Dividend.

I could not get through my Christmas shopping list without accidentally including a couple of items made in China, even though that was the only objective I had with gift buying this year:  to try and buy only products made in the U.S.

That objective is now nearly impossible.  We do not need to be worrying about how to help China's government and businesses, we need to be worried about the slave labor there and the innocent civilians who are censored, brutalized, and executed.

ON THE WAR  Back to Top
McCain seems to mix up Iraq and Iran, as many people do, when it comes to al-Qaeda.  Al-Qaeda is in Iran, but McCain stated that if we pull out of Iraq, "al-Qaeda will win."

Romney made a good point when he mentioned that if we want people to sign up for our military, we need to "improve the deal" and offer better incentives, like paid education.

ATTACKING HILLARY  Back to Top
Giuliani, McCain, and Romney all jumped on the Attacking Hillary Clinton boat, and mentioned what they believe to be mistakes of hers several times.  Huckabee and Paul maintained dignity and reserved their comments for how to change things, instead of pointing fingers, which we respect.

GLOBAL WARMING  Back to Top
MSNBC made strict mention of the fact that Rudy Giuliani does not support a cap on emissions.  Giuliani answered that he believes it should be a world-addressed problem, not a U.S. problem.  No one else seemed to have a plan, although, not everyone was given a chance to speak.

RELIGION  Back to Top
MSNBC had to drag in the religion issue, as always, with both Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney.  MSNBC quoted a Wall Street Journal poll in which 44% of Americans think "a Mormon would have a difficult time uniting the country."  That is the stupidest poll I have ever heard of.  I just think it's worth mentioning that the mass media constantly feels the need to bring up religion, race, and gender, and what the public thinks about it, in this election.  Can we focus on politics, please?  Isn't that what we're all here for?

IMMIGRATION  Back to Top
Giuliani mentioned the desire to have a "tamper-free ID card" for non-U.S. citizens to be in the U.S. and identify themselves.  He also was ribbed by MSNBC announcers for running campaign ads in Spanish.

ON BUSH  Back to Top
The candidate who mentioned President George W. Bush's name the most frequently was Huckabee.  He used words including "safe," "courageous," "resolve," and "a fine job" to describe Bush and/or his administration.  Which - sorry - that makes us gag.

In conclusion:  although Paul got the last answer - which the audience applauded - his face was hardly shown, and the "speaking times" speak for themselves (pun intended).

But you know what?  We have great hope for the American media.  Because right now, bloggers are more popular than ever, and Google - who is still the #1 search engine in the world - does not discriminate against any company that wants to put their headlines up on Google News (including us).

So keep it here at ConnieTalk, and we will tell you what's really going on.  Tomorrow, we will be posting a poll of which media outlet you think is the least biased in the mainstream media as a whole - and exposing the subliminal messages of the MSM's "front pages."


Ask - no, DEMAND - that MSNBC provide equal coverage to all of the candidates that are still in the race.  Every one of them deserves the respect and acknowledgment of having the same platform for their message, regardless of what that message may be.  THIS IS AMERICA.

ConnieTalk's Petition to MSNBC for Equal Coverage

E-mail Body to copy/paste:


Address the e-mail to:

letters@msnbc.com
business@msnbc.com

And CC:
PresidentialSvcTeam@libertymutual.com (Liberty Mutual sponsored the debate)
moneytalk@bestbuy.com (Best Buy's Investor Relations Dept. - they were an advertiser for the debate)
investor.relations@capitalone.com (Capital One's Investor Relations Dept. - they were an advertiser for the debate)

Then, copy and paste your sent e-mail to:
Meet The Press with Tim Russert here.
Matthew T. Coyle, VP & Director of Investor Relations for Liberty Mutual.

UPDATE: A gazillion thanks to PrisonPlanet.com, who quoted our article & petition and posted the video footage of the Ron Paul speaking sections only, to make up for the bias!

UPDATE: 3/22/08 Rejoice: Our NBC Boycott Ends On Two Notes




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